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Post by Michael Lim on Oct 27, 2006 14:40:08 GMT -5
ok vote if you think he should be banned and say why, also say how long you think he should be banned
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Post by Inquisitor "Skippy" on Oct 31, 2006 21:01:15 GMT -5
Don't even bother with this. It is pointless. He should have gotten a warning, which he did. How about me, huh? Did you ever think about that? Shall I begin talking about your bias against me, since I'm not a co-founder, or a member you probably don't like?
I'll be nice...for now. And YES, I DO go and normally post, again, contrary to popular belief.
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Post by bladeofdeath3 on Oct 31, 2006 23:34:29 GMT -5
garrin should be punished for calling me a gayball. alex swore, which is a common thing. garrin called me a "gayball" and used other derogative terms relating to homosexuals, which i think is worse than swearing. swearing is indiscriminate and can hurt anyone. derogative terms pertaining to homosexuals target only homosexuals.
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Post by Michael Lim on Nov 1, 2006 2:35:48 GMT -5
well, i personally think that the word gay is stupid, and that it wasnt meant to be derogatory origonally, but somehow people began using it as an insult. but on a more technical level, at the time of the "gay" comment, there was nothing in the rules mentioning gay comments, which is why i added it and im now asking if you think he should be punished
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Post by bladeofdeath3 on Nov 1, 2006 2:39:50 GMT -5
well, the situation changed and that means a change in rule and a change in punishment. just because i commit a crime that the government hasn't figured out a punishment to punish me doesn't mean i do not deserve punishment. i see it that garrin deserves punishment for his actions.
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Post by Michael Lim on Nov 1, 2006 15:34:33 GMT -5
i know which is why im asking if he should be punished now, instead of when alex was banned, becuase at that time i didnt have a punishment but now i do, im not saying becuase there was no rule he wont be punished, im saying that because there wasnt a rule then, he wasnt punished then, but he will be now. and for the record, if you do something before a law is made prohibiting it, for example killing someone when theres no rule against it, there is no legal grounds for prosicution, but there are moral ground, so although techniclly he didnt commit a crime, the offender should know that what occurred is wrong and submit to whatever punishment is devised
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Post by Inquisitor "Skippy" on Nov 1, 2006 16:10:08 GMT -5
And again, I bring it up: IT'S TOO LATE. You only come up with the punishment NOW? For God's sake, when did Garansballbarans say that comment!? Several weeks ago?! Really, this is stupid. It's too late! It'll be a hollow punishment. What, he gets banned for 5 days? Will that really make a difference? No, it won't. Oh wait, you'll just gloat over the victory, since you can do it NOW.
And just because you amend the rules NOW doesn't mean it shouldn't have been in the rules. Really, we all know that you shouldn't put comments like that up even if there aren't rules saying you can't. Common sense, right?
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Post by oklahomaazn on Nov 1, 2006 16:11:17 GMT -5
Well My cousin is gay and I came to trems with it. It just is kind of akward when you sit next to him in the car in road trips.
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Post by Michael Lim on Nov 1, 2006 16:14:23 GMT -5
And again, I bring it up: IT'S TOO LATE. You only come up with the punishment NOW? For God's sake, when did Garansballbarans say that comment!? Several weeks ago?! Really, this is stupid. It's too late! It'll be a hollow punishment. What, he gets banned for 5 days? Will that really make a difference? No, it won't. Oh wait, you'll just gloat over the victory, since you can do it NOW. And just because you amend the rules NOW doesn't mean it shouldn't have been in the rules. Really, we all know that you shouldn't put comments like that up even if there aren't rules saying you can't. Common sense, right? we all know you shouldnt swear and it is in the rules, but you still did, im just saying that because there was no specific rule against it, but there was against swearing, there wasnt really anything to punish him for being as he broke no rule. but now that i added the rule im offering to punish. im doing this for you , you idiot so if you dont want me to then i wont |
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Post by bladeofdeath3 on Nov 1, 2006 23:13:58 GMT -5
well, in that case, i can be mean and disrepect garrin as long as I subtlely hint at it? ok, i shall by all means. the point i'm trying to get across is that he disrespected me by calling me a "gayball" and im furious about it. Garrin and me should deal with it with michael presenting an UNBIASED verdict on garrin's punishment. alex swore, which was a minor swear word (it was jack***) if im correct. Garrin made a statement that targeted a whole community of people. Now alex wasn't targeting a group of people, but just using the word in general. since you deleted the post, we have no way of figuring out in which context alex was using the word. IMO, i think garrin commited a more offensive crime.
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Post by Michael Lim on Nov 1, 2006 23:16:49 GMT -5
ok thats why im holding this thing, but noone else seems to think this, how bout this, if you get one more person to agree that what he did was worse, and be able to explain why, not just using your reason, then ill ban him for 10 days long enough? also i highly doubt he actually meant he thought you were gay, it was just a comment. just like when you say im going to kill you, you dont actually mean it so calm down a bit edit im fairly certain it was a joke, beecause thinking back ibelieve lwason saaid something about being "anal" about grammar, and garrin said something about gay people being anal or something, idk ill look at the posts ok i found one of them, Yes you actuually are, but no his point hasn't been pushed enough yet. If he is so OCD about this, or anal(this is why I thought gayball) he should understand that you have to relax about it. ok i found a second one un fourtunetly, when we moved the disscussion to arguments, i think i delted the thread with the actual comment being said how does ocd lead to homosexuality? and wouldn't ocd mean that he CANT relax about grammar? atleast he said he's sorry, i haven't heard u say that in a while..... i didn't mean that i was going to ask the comitee something like that and i'd say that not letting others help is bringing in personal bias toward a matter best left untainted by said predjudice or any other feeling not providing a positive impact on the club. Um OCD means Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, and that means that you're obsessed with being perfect and things, but I meant about gay was that he said that he was anal, I thought that that was his preference. but yeah Michael is right this really has nothing to do with the club, except that it's about video games. |
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Post by Inquisitor "Skippy" on Nov 3, 2006 20:29:51 GMT -5
I dont' believe I wrote the...
how does ocd lead to homosexuality?
and wouldn't ocd mean that he CANT relax about grammar?
atleast he said he's sorry, i haven't heard u say that in a while.....
i didn't mean that i was going to ask the comitee something like that
and i'd say that not letting others help is bringing in personal bias toward a matter best left untainted by said predjudice or any other feeling not providing a positive impact on the club.
...part, because I hate to say this, but I kinda use better grammar...
Neither is the lower part, where OCD is being explained.
Still, who said those things? Wasn't me, but sure was someone.
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Post by Inquisitor "Skippy" on Nov 3, 2006 20:31:21 GMT -5
Fine, if it will end this argument, you can ban Garansballbarans for a couple of days, or however you see fit. Not that it will matter much, but we might as well stop talking on this part of the forum, and concentrate on being more productive.
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Post by Draconic Onion on Nov 3, 2006 21:30:48 GMT -5
I dont' believe I wrote the... how does ocd lead to homosexuality?
and wouldn't ocd mean that he CANT relax about grammar?
atleast he said he's sorry, i haven't heard u say that in a while.....
i didn't mean that i was going to ask the comitee something like that
and i'd say that not letting others help is bringing in personal bias toward a matter best left untainted by said predjudice or any other feeling not providing a positive impact on the club....part, because I hate to say this, but I kinda use better grammar... Neither is the lower part, where OCD is being explained. Still, who said those things? Wasn't me, but sure was someone. if ull notice below those, i posted that they were actually mine.  since you used my computer at lunch a while ago and forgot to log off. so by accident i posted with yours. (i didn't notice because i nvr log in, since i leave my account logged in forever on my laptop) |
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since you used my computer at lunch a while ago and forgot to log off. so by accident i posted with yours. (i didn't notice because i nvr log in, since i leave my account logged in forever on my laptop)